I’ve always been anti-Greek life. Also, just because 1 frat parties, doesn’t mean they all do. Im sure whatever sorority you decided not to rush really missed out on you gracing them with your presence. About. But things are changing and becoming better in the Greek Life system. If you look outside you’ll also see it’s not just them, that half of IV is still partying, and getting rid of frats won’t stop that. For a better tomorrow, we must #AbolishGreekLife. You’ve clearly been bottled up at home since March. When the orgs are predominantly white and only take white girls (no matter how hard they claim diversity aka a phi and pi phi you're not fooling anyone) the "opportunities" and "networking" y'all claim is limited to white folks. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.361933014be843c79476.css.map*/I also really feel for some of the AC Transit drivers. literally what the title says. If you want us to discredit your argument without arrogance why are you arguing with arrogance. This is how I feel as well. As other people in this thread have pointed out, it could lead to them "going rogue" and operating entirely unmonitored. I think you can’t take this all out on Greeks. There are hundreds of parties going in iv which include those who are CC kids and UC kids who are not in Greek life. The councils have about 1,400 members each. After the death of Timothy Piazza, once again the history of fraternities must remind college administrators that Greek life causes deaths I'm not a UC student. I know I started this thread as a criticism of the COVID parties going on, but it’s important to note that there’s a deep rooted issue here. And above all, they thrive off of this toxic brotherhood culture, where many have fallen victim to rape coverups and denial. @abolish_greeklife on Instagram | greeklifeabolition@gmail.com. When I got divorced, my brothers were my support system. i definitely see your reasoning for abolishing greek life, but if we do abolish all, where do we draw the line of what we are removing from campus? I know my message was somewhat aggressive but this is the result of witnessing constant abuse. not to mention that 20 people at a random house party on DP (which is still bad) aren't collectively contributing to and benefiting from a racist, classist, outdated and ORGANIZED system. 2,733 Followers, 112 Following, 258 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Abolish Richmond Greek Life (@abolishrichmondgreeklife) I get that it’s mostly white people, but I think that’s a bit condescending or disregarding of non white people in Greek Life that enjoy it. IV has quite a few essential workers, in big families where big gatherings are both a joy and a necessity for survival in our rich/poor economy here. More specifically, students at colleges like Vanderbilt, Northwestern, North Carolina, and others are requesting the abolition of all historically-white fraternities and sororities. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/06/30/harvard-rescinds-policy-against-fraternities-sororities-other-single-gender-organizations/. r/UCSantaBarbara is back to abolish Greek life for the tenth time this year. It would not surprise me if I get downvoted for this. I also cannot be the only one that feels they need to go. I understand the greek orgs they want to ban are the ‘white’ ones, and not the ‘black’ ones, but it irks me when people call them the white ones. A subreddit for the community of UC Berkeley as well as the surrounding City of Berkeley, California. Uh oh, watch out Thad and Chad. This sounds a lot like my experience 15-20 years ago at Cal. The type of students that throw parties go here or cc, abolishing greek life wouldn't make those types of people stop throwing parties. Then, send us your story. In an email to The Collegian on July 9, IFC president Peter Corsiglia wrote that he cannot comment on the calls to abolish Greek Life at UR. Fiji is recognized by the IFC now, they don’t throw parties as much because if they get one more issue arise from their parties they could get unrecognized. (pre professional orgs are MUCH more inclusive and understanding from what i've seen and I see nothing wrong with benefiting because of academic merit). Abolish Greek Life. I've drove down DP on a weekend night, and it seems like it's more of an IV issue than a greek life issue, which is only 10% of the school, and an even smaller percentage of IV. Not just people you agree with or like, *everyone/anyone*. When I was in the hospital a few years back, my frat bros came to my bedside. You don't need to funnel your donation money through your organization so they get a tax break, just donate it yourself. Contact. I've been a regular rider on a lot of campus-adjacent lines, and while most drivers express a sense of general exasperation with all UCB students if you chat with them, they really dislike how the frat kids get come eveningtime and later. Gay guy in a fraternity, here. Back. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Back. This petition is a call to abolish Greek life (fraternities and sororities). It's past time to abolish Greek life. I'm not even part of a frat but using the select few worst examples and extrapolating that to the whole group of frats is pure ignorance. I know people personally who have been roofied, raped, sexually assaulted, etc... at frats and for their sake I will not be standing by idly. EDIT: After reading some comments, I should clarify I mean social orgs such as IFC and Panhellenic. Even if you aren’t in the roughly 40 percent of undergraduates who join a fraternity or sorority, their influence can be hard to escape, since they often dictate when the parties are, where the parties are, and exactly who’s invited. At Northwestern, the Greek system is the absolute authority on social life. Read More. They thrive off of discrimination. You must be one of those “respect me and my choices, but I have no respect for you or yours” types. when we think of greek life, we might automatically think of these reckless frat boys and sorority girls who are partying, but it is much bigger than that so do we get rid of them all or do we find a way to remove only the problematic chapters? Color me surprised. These three frat guys kept pushing on it from behind and laughing. Many frats and sororities give a place for a lot of ppl to meet friends, bond, and do dope shit. "other people are partying too" yes and? In recent months, movements to abolish Greek Life organizations on college campuses have sprung up across the country. Abolish Greek Life. Greek life promotes a social hierarchy that feeds off of class status, gender status, racial status, homophobia, and transphobia. ._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} Many frats and sororities give a place for a lot of ppl to meet friends, bond, and do dope shit. Catcalls, mostly- every time. After Floyd’s killing in police custody and … and a low 3.0 average after having literal test banks and answer keys isn't that impressive either, please find a new hobby. That causes spread too... that is largely why Santa Maria, Lompoc, and the City of Santa Barbara have higher infection rates than IV. It’s telling that everyone that agrees with you isn’t in a frat or sorority... they don’t see the real benefits. To start, let's do a simple thought experiment and imagine a world in which fraternities were not a part of higher educat News Read Me Take Action Open Menu Close Menu. Abolish Greek Life. I'm just a Berkeley citizen, who's lived here for most of my life. This boils down to a larger problem with local government at this point and taking it all out on Greeks is just simply not the answer honey. Cookies help us deliver our Services. By Steve Connelly . Also what do you mean by abolish? Well, the first amendment guarantees the right of people to peaceably assemble. At least say 'suspend' greek life cuz of covid rather than just abolish. Chapters [10]: Chapman University (@abolishgreeklifechapman) Denison University (@abolishdukeifcandpanhellenic) Duke University (@du_abolishgreek) Emory University (@abolishemorygreeklife) University of Richmond (@abolishrichmondgreeklife) If these Greek houses violated County guidelines, cite them. In the wake of our nation’s moral reckoning with racism, a movement to Abolish Greek Life was born. Cookies help us deliver our Services. What We Do. The more you try to control others, the more you will suffer. What We Do. Not to mention, there’s still research being done on the long term effects of covid, so we don’t even know what kind of health problems people could experience down the road. i know of one panhellenic sorority who completely shut down their house this year because they didn't want to endanger anyone by making their girls live in, which i think was a good move on their part. But it is noticeable that no other parks on the whole South Coast have permanent tent encampments. The same stuff would happen if you "abolished" greek life, they would just be underground like they used to be. Does anyone have any ideas on how feasible it would be to actually have Greek life removed from UCSB? IFC chapter presidents and the administrators in the CSI will likely discuss calls to abolish Greek Life in a meeting on July 13, according to Corsiglia’s email. What We Do Chapters Current Page: Projects Contact News Read Me Take Action Projects. Press J to jump to the feed. We must abolish it. At one point my GF at the time (who was a UC student then) and I were walking past one of the frat houses, holding hands, and got jeered at, screamed at to kiss, etc., because lesbians omg. Projects. it doesn't negate what greek life is doing. Any body is what the members make of it. The only reason people join greek life is because they can't move on from high school and don't give me that philanthropy and academics bullshit. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. (the rest of this petition currently refers to frats only, but we are currently updating it to address sororities too!) I have enormous sympathy for unhoused folk in today's mess, and IV is kind and generous in many ways... the Pescadero Lofts, outreach through various programs, including the religious institutions in IV, which I support and volunteer at. I could write a book on this matter chock-full of personal experiences but just writing this post is giving me a headache. Go outside, smell some fresh air, get some sun, and lighten your mood. should chapters like the one i mentioned and the few others that have been monitoring covid be punished for reckless behavior of other chapters? Fraternities and sororities are built on systems of exclusion, oppression, and violence. Vanderbilt’s Greek rush process, in which potential new members are sorted into fraternities and sororities, will conclude at the beginning of the upcoming spring semester. You act like there aren’t older people that live in IV who are at risk because students won’t stop partying. At least say 'suspend' greek life cuz of covid rather than just abolish. As a member of another fraternity here on campus, it's nice to see our voices heard. even then, what about the sororities or frats that have been responsible and enforcing negative consequences for going out? I learned more as president of my fraternity than I did in any of my coursework at Berkeley and many of those guys are still my best friends to this day. and a low 3.0 average after having literal test banks and answer keys isn't that impressive either, please find a new hobby. You can’t stop groups of people from forming clubs, especially off campus. We cannot adequately reform Greek life. About. One is not easier or harder than the other, they are just different and require different aptitudes or skills to do well. I just think that it is too late to abolish … Who cares about frats? That isn’t to say that there isn’t a lot of work that needs to still be done, but I do believe that the dismissal of all feats like this isn’t a good thing. If they repeat, suspend them. Well, graduated this semester so I’m an alumni but I digress. It will be a test for Greek life and the Abolish Greek Life movement alike. News, questions, and discussions for the people of UCSB and IV. It’s not just Greek life my dude. where do the pre professional greek organizations come into play with this though, out of curiosity? Focus inward, not outward. Lol yea i was at first a little interested in rushing for a sorority but after looking thru their instagrams and seeing like only 20% of their members not being thin rich white girls I was completely turned off from them trying to project a certain lifestyle ... seems like an exclusive partying club mostly based on looks and money to me ‍♀️, How did you discern the wealth of each soroity girl mentioned? There have been movements to dismantle the pay-to-play organizations at many campuses, but the efforts typically have been led by outsiders, Pinto said. Calls for restructuring White Greek life are not new, but cries to abolish them have sharpened in recent months. IV now has about 50 tents of unhoused folk in it parks... don't see the rules being followed at those. How bout the 50 houses on dp partying every weekend? Welcome! Thread locked for brigading from (primarily) r/frat. Disagree. The culture of sexual assault and the emphasis on conforming to fit into this system was unappealing to me from the start, but recently, as the Abolish Greek Life … Not to mention the rampant racism, classism, and sexual harassment allegations that come from there. Redditors not having a clue about Greek life. But IV has the same issue, at a smaller rate. Our house was as diverse as Cal overall. Our Mission To dismantle the fraternity and sorority system on every campus, expelling the exclusivity, discrimination, and violence Greek Life brings with it. i agree the greek system is massively fucked up but just bc a few frats and sororities are being dumb doesn't mean everyone associated w a frat (particularly pre-prof and multicultural frats) should get backlash as well. I can't really say whether Cal should or shouldn't ban them. There’s such a stereotype associated with fraternities, and let’s be honest, many of them deserve that stereotype. New Hope in Old Appalachia It all begins with an idea. Focusing on the Greek houses seems to me to divert needed energy from other needs. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The system is broken. Start by signing the petition. Yup, and greek life is sanctioning houses if there is proof, last I heard students who throw parties aren't facing any consequences. I used to dread having to go anywhere near the frat houses. There were some rich, white dudes, but people came from all over and we worked on payment plans for brothers that had hit hard times. Good luck with that. We must abolish it,” states a Change.org petition created by the Abolish Greek Life movement, which is made up largely of former fraternity and sorority members who have left their organizations in protest of what they say is the toxic and bigoted nature of historically White fraternities and sororities (HWFS). Season 1, Episode 7 - Abolish Greek Life and the History of White Fraternities Andrea Skarbecki August 11, 2020 fraternity , sorority , race , Greek Life Comment Facebook 0 Twitter LinkedIn 0 Reddit Tumblr 0 Likes IFC and Panhellenic are historically racist orgs that perpetuate systemic oppression of minorities, as they aren't as accessible to minorities. By Noor Fakih on October 27, 2020. The best thing to do right now is to keep calm and reduce your risk by not getting close to anyone who likes to drink alcohol in a group. I dont have any love for greek life but a lot of the arguments against it reek of sour grapes. Folder: About. Abolish Greek Life 5/28/19 Abolish Greek Life 5/28/19. Chapters. Plus I seriously doubt "most" of the parties are coming from greek life, greek life is just the only group that is getting held accountable. Harvard tried and failed: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/06/30/harvard-rescinds-policy-against-fraternities-sororities-other-single-gender-organizations/, pre-professional frats aren't allowed to have anything in person at all. or even the multicultural greek orgs? Being in Greek Life, knowing what I know, experiencing what I experienced ... Abolish Stanford Greek life: Confessions from an ex-sorority president. How would abolishing Greek life solve any of these issues? Thank you for speaking out for Greek Life. EDIT (again): If you're going to defend greek life and say they aren't the only ones partying then you better go just as hard in holding them accountable. Be happy and be your best. What We Do Current Page: Chapters Projects Contact News Read Me Take Action Chapters. I do think that the university could be stricter with regulating them (exactly how I don’t know), especially at a time like this. 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